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print = Nice Hotel, Red = Bates Motel, Purple=bar/restaurant, )
= Baseops Pick - a Hotel taking top
honors, great service and facilities for crew dogs.
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Davis-Monthan AFB, Tucson AZ - There is a GREAT
Marriott downtown (2nd Street)
right at the edge of the University and so close to the bars, etc... Another
Marriot in town is the Courtyard Marriot.
Staff is extremely helpful. Restaurant has nice breakfast buffet each morning. Hotel has swimming pool, whirl pool, work out room etc. Very convenient to restaurants, shopping and even to base. Not as close to U of A as some may like however.
Embassy Suites is $58 a night for off-season and the on-season rate is still covered under the $ amount.
There is free drinks every night from 5:30-7:30pm as well as a free breakfast every morning. It will help offset the $36 a day per diem.
Close to the base, but not too close.
Huge suites...bedroom and refrigerator. Two TV's and internet
connections in every room.
Eat at the
El Paso Restaurant
They serve BBQ and authentic AZ meal for a reasonable price and there are only six stores in the
chain. They have numerous beers on tap and the service is excellent. We
told the owner that we would recommend their restaurant and they comped our
meal two nights in a
row. Doubletree Suites has nice
suites and service. Close to Pinnacle Peaks
restaurant and nightlife.
Try to get the breakfast coupon or they will charge you for
their breakfast buffet (which is really nice) About
5 minutes from the base (Speedway
Rd.)
Eat on 4th Street at Bysonwitches - great drink
prices, huge sandwiches, and bread bowls. The food's good, and the prices are
cheap. Close to UofA. La
Fuente (520-623-8659)
is
an outstanding Mexican Restuarant!
1749 North Oracle Road. Not expensive/ Moderate with Live Mexican Music and
outstanding food. Try the fresh made Guacamole!!!!!!!!!!!! ~Bison-Witches
- Great food - soup/sandwitches/good beer Frog&Firkin - On University - Great
beer - Friendly U of A college waitresses; Gentle Bens
- On University - Brewpub with good hot wings - Try the oatmeal stout beer
Luke AFB, AZ - Windmill Suites (623-583-0133/623-583-8366) was nice!15 minute drive from Luke AFB, in Surprise, AZ, the staff here was very friendly and the location ideal, within walking distance of several good restaurants. The rooms were big and clean, lots of cable channels, a pool, and free use of bicycles. They also deliver continental breakfast to your room in the morning. For less than $50 per night government rate, I'd recommend the Windmill for crew dogs to RON at Luke.
Sierra Vista, AZ - Thunder Mountain hotel was decent, but call the St. Joes guys and find out where they stay. It's better Firday night to go to each shack then the club. Saturday is Dillon's Bar night - tip the waitress and do well! Tues. is Famous Sam's night - ask for Edith. Thurs. is Dillon's again for $1 drink night and $.25 drinks at the Beach Shack. ~Just got back from Tactics School. AATTC is billeting crews in Sierra Suites now. Pretty decent hotel. Good continental breakfast every morning. Nice courtyards for socializing/war stories after yankin' and bankin' before you go out on the town. ~Windemere Hotel (1-800-825-4656 Fax 520-458-1347) was great. Very clean, nice rooms. 3 free drinks per day in the lounge. Free breakfast everyday. Lots of shopping and places to eat at nearby.
Yuma, AZ - Do NOT go to the Interstate 8. The place has dinky rooms (you can almost have one hand out the front door and the other in the toilet while passed out on the bed). The walls are paper thin. Days Inn was okay - Denny's is right next door and McD's down the street. Radisson Suites is great and has a free happy hour from 5-7 everyday and suites ... under per deim limit and next to Mcdonald's. across the street is a GREAT mexican restaraunt called Mi Rancho they have a burrito there $8.95 it weighs about two pounds.. also mexico is only 30 mins away San Luis.. go to a place called (the wild Zoo??) if you ask a cabbie you'll get there; negotiate the price before you get in though.. La Fuente is a nice hotel with nice rooms, microwave and fridge. Happy Hour 5-7PM, free breakfast 5-9AM. Located by intersection of HWY95 and Interstate8. Next to Denny's and Cracker Barrel. Only 30 minutes from Proving Grounds. Eat at Burgers and Beers for good food of all sorts as well as beers and lots of TVs to watch the game. Radisson Inn Yuma (Comm:520-726-4830; 2600 S. 4th Ave., Yuma, AZ 85364) was a palace! Heated Swimming pool and hot tub; Free wells, draughts, and snacks from 5-7pm each night (all you can drink); all rooms are suites; great military rate $58/night. ~Just got back from Yuma. Found a couple of good bars. Jimmy Dees on first street is good Thursday night (Ladies night). Also, Ron's Place is good on Friday night. Radisson and La Fuente are both good hotels, very comparable.
Little Rock AFB, AR - Going TDY to Little
Rock? Read our Schoolhouse Gouge first!
Do not let billeting send you to the Inn
of
America, period. The rooms are poor (noise from the stairwells reaches the rooms, the AC units are old and loud, and the hotel personnel attempted to double-up our
crews).
The Comfort Inn is noisy and is full of lovely things like bugs and
Arkansans; but they have the full setup with fridge/microwave/coffeepot, as well
as daily breakfast, indoor pool, jacuzzi, and exercise room (nice if you
don't want to go into the base to work out on your many days off)...
Days Inn - Jacksonville is a dump, changed rooms twice - 1st room, horrible stench (dead rat)
2nd room, ant infestation. Insist on staying either on base (try for the
VOQs) or off base at the
Cranbury Inn and Suites (501) 985-7666 where they
offer king size bed, air conditioning, highly lit parking lot at night, small
refrig, and a microwave. Pool and continental breakfast.
Limited Cable TV. Separate phone jack for your computer. I stayed at The Southern Comfort Hotel (501)985-4400
for 12 nights before a room at the Q was available. It is a former Holiday Inn Express. The continental breakfast was good. The staff went out of the way to make the military comfortable. Advice: Do not park in the backside at night. My car was broken into the first night. This is not a normal for this place, it just happened. Some friends were at the Days Inn next door and complained. I did not have complaints at all.
Newly opened Executive suites at
Marriott Residence Inn
- (501 945 7777 / 1-800 331 3131) superb rooms, most of us had suites with kitchens. It comes with a free breakfast every morning
(Eggs,Toast,
Waffles, Biscuit, Sausage), food throughout the day and an occasional free meal at night depending on the situation
(ie Mon Night Football). It also has an indoor pool/jacuzi and a small exercise room. 4110 Health Care Dr,
(McCain Mall) North Little Rock, AR 72117
About 15 minutes from LRAFB - $59 cheeses a night. ~I'm staying at the Southern
Comfort--it's pretty decent as far as cleanliness and condition, it looks
fairly new. Some drawbacks: No fridge/microwaves or coffee pots
in the rooms, (but you can ask for one, they have a limited number, sometimes
there's a waiting list, and there's also an extra charge of a dollar a day). The
breakfast area has a micro available for use and coffee is usually on
throughout the day. There's laundry rooms but the dryers seem to be
set to a short cycle (30 min) so you might have to run them through a
couple times. ~The place I wish I'd known about was the Best
Western Jacksonville (501-982-8181), right
next door to the Southern Comfort. It looks very respectable (I haven't
been in their rooms but I talked to their desk clerk the other day). Some
rooms have jacuzzi tubs, king size bed and fridges. These jacuzzi rooms
cost a little extra, at $55/day. (Max lodging is 72.) Eventually they're getting
all their rooms done with fridges and microwaves. They also have a fitness
room and outdoor pool. No breakfast in the lobby, but they'll provide you
coupons for a complimentary breakfast at the Shoney's next door--full breakfast
buffet, not just the bagels, muffins, and juice you normally get in a hotel
lobby. The catch is that you have to be paying full price ($55 for the
jacuzzi rooms, $52 for normal rooms.) The contract rate with the base is
four or five dollars less than that, and you don't get the breakfast coupons
with the reduced rate. As I mentioned though, max lodging is 72, so
maybe you can ask to pay full rate and claim it anyway. ~Check out the Cajun
Wharf down by the river (downtown)--excellent spot albiet a little
pricey. Also Flying Saucer has a large selection of
tap beer and a good atmosphere. ~Residence Inn at I-40 and I-67 was a great
hotel. I can't believe no one has listed The Mean
Pig in Cabot. They have awesome BBQ sandwiches. Take US 67 to
the first Cabot exit. Go through the light. It's on the left. Owners
are ex-military, and they love you. For more substantial BBQ, try
Pig 'n' Chick out the back gate. The
Athenian Grill in Sherwood has good Greek food.
Edwards AFB, CA - Essex House, Lancaster Ca (805)-948-0961 is the closest place to base (about 30 min). Free fitness and racquet center next door. Free breakfast (eggs/bacon/etc). Happy hour has free food. Within 15 minutes of lots of restaurants. LA is only about 1.5 hour drive. Hotel is well within the govt rate and you can make money on this trip. LA per diem rates. ~If you have to stay off base down in Lancaster, definitely ASK to stay at the Essex House. It sucks to drive to Lancaster from Edwards, as the base if quite a ways away. And most of the hotels in town completely suck. The Essex House, with all of its warts, is as good as it comes in Lancaster. They even have a car rental place on the premises (I believe it was AVIS), so you can rent a car and head down to LA for a day. LA is only an hour away (almost 2 in heavy traffic) and yields some excellent places to go. I highly recommend the Cheesecake Factory in Redondo Beach, as it offers some of the best foods around. While in LA, be sure to stop at a Trader Joes and grab some outstanding trail mix and other fresh "california type" foods at rock bottom prices. For a good drive, drive around the point of Ranchos Palos Verdes and stop at the whale watching spot. If it is closed, go just to the East of it and walk down to the rocky shoreline for some "rock skippin'" and water fun. If you're into surfing, Manhattan Beach offers some of the best waves and best looking locals. A trip to LA would never be worthwhile unless you visited the freaks down at Venice Beach. An hour is all you can stand there, but it is usually worth the trip on the weekend. If you are cruising Beverly Hills and find yourself on Melrose, have lunch at the Moustache Cafe for a really upscale, trendy "feel like you fit in" dining experience. The chocolate souffle at the end is outstanding. As with everything mentioned in this paragraph on LA, bring your wallet well stocked, as LA will take every dime you have. ~Just went on a tanker business effort to Edwards AFB. The support from the 418 FLTS tanker ops section (DSN 277-7895) and heavy maintenance is marginal because the whole test operation at Edwards is unpredictable, F-22s mostly with some JTFs, B-52s, B-2s thrown in. Expect receiver delays 75% of the time and cancels about 40% of the time. I was there a week and cancelled twice. The tanker ops section will fill you in on the VFR flight ops at Edwards AFB. Take the time to read all the info. Long story short, Sport and Joshua are the controlling agencies for the area but mostly provide VFR advisories. Stay outside the jet! Help your maintainers by requesting fuel trucks an hour out from the base because it takes POL about two hours to get a truck to your jet. Also, plan your redeployment leg before you leave home station. Mission planning at base ops or the tanker section blows. Rental cars are a must for the front end and recommended for maintenance. Waleed at Enterprise Rental (on base at the gas station, 661-258-1586 ) is extremely helpful. When faxing your request to billeting, be sure to request the Antelope Valley Inn (Best Western). First, free full breakfast buffet (eggs, bacon, pancakes, fruit, etc.) and two free happy hour drinks, only one if you stipulate the brand of liquor. Second, free gym passes to 24-hour fitness less than 5 minutes away. Third, free local calls, even to the base. The Best Western is located in Lancaster, about a 40 minute drive from Base Ops heading south toward Palmdale and L.A. Palmdale is about 10 miles south of Lancaster and has a lot of popular restaurants, bars, theaters, etc. Las Vegas is a good four hours from the base. We packed a change of clothes and waited for a receiver cancel day (40% of the time) to leave from the base instead of the hotel saving us about an hour and a half. L.A. is about and hour and a half depending on traffic. As for Lancaster, I've heard that Schooners is good on Wednesday nights after about 9 p.m. Also, the Thai Inn, down the street from the hotel is recommended. Stay away from the Thai Cafe on base!! Horrible. ~Oxford Inn in Lancaster, CA is a pretty cool place to stay, they had typical rooms but they had free FULL breakfasts i.e. eggs, biscuits and gravy, bacon, snosage, pastries, cereal etc. Plus there were free evening (after 5:30) snacks such as veggies, chips and dip, plus something hot like chicken wings, and two free beers per night for your entire stay. And there was a huge health club/weight room down the road, that was free if you showed them your room key. The hotel also had a pool and hot tub.
~Update on Lancaster: We found two great restaurants. Don Cuco's mexican restaurant, located at south side of Avenue J, about two block east of Hwy 14, had really good mexican food...can't go wrong with any of their specials. If you want an Oriental buffet on steriods, go to the Blue Koi. It's located on the southeast side of Avenue N and Hwy 14. The variety and selection is overwhelming for $13.99. If you like sushi, eat at the Blue Koi. It's included in the buffet. Also, every crewmember must make a pilgrimage to the "Wing and a Prayer" bar/grill. It's a bit of a drive from Lancaster (20-25min) at the intersection of Avenue J and 90th St. West. You can also get there from the South gate exit at Edwards AFB...so when the F-22 cancels you can swing by there for a cold one on your way back to the hotel. This bar is a piece of aviation history that every crewmember must visit. They close a 9PM on weekdays...later on weekends. Don't forget to sign the wall out back.
NAS Lemoore, CA - First off, don't expect too much support from the Navy. We got lucky finding a vehicle for our use while we were there. Stayed on base, the rooms were nice and clean, a bargain for $12.00. Expect to see the crew separated by rank, it's the Navy way. Navy Lodge was allright. Take the trip to Fresno. We ate at the Bulldog Brewery. Great food and beers and after 10pm on a friday, the place was packed with women. Didn't stay long enough to explore Yosemite or Sequoia National Parks, but it's a definite possibility on longer layovers.
Long Beach, CA - This airport is extremely busy. AirFlite is an awesome FBO (as you'll notice by all the awards in their trophy case). You can rent a car through Enterprise at the FBO. For large aircraft, read the ASRR careful to determine your taxi routing. We stayed at the Residence Inn which wasn't bad at all. Every night they have appetizers and drinks. For Krispy Kreme fans there is one a few blocks from the hotel. For those early shows, the only place open is Denny's which isn't too far from the FBO. If you have COMSEC to store this is probably not the best place to RON since you'd have to drive out to LA AFS which is like a 45 minute drive.
March AFB, CA - First off, March is a reserve base so service is limited. If during a UTA weekend expect to stay off-base. We stayed at the Best Western in Moreno Valley and it OK, no freebies. If you do stay on base stay away from anything but building 100 and 456. Sally's Alley behind the Club is a cool place with a lot of history. Base pool is free with military ID. The base is split in half, the main gate leads to the ops side while the Riverside gate leads to the BX and Commissary. The Riverside gate is usually closed so you'll have to go out the main gate, hang a right and make another right at the light with the March Federal Credit Union. The base is next to I-215 so if you are stuck rent a car. We used the AVIS in Riverside, talk to Manu the owner. He was very friendly to military and will come pick you up.There is also an Enterprise in Moreno Valley but we heard mixed reviews. Food wise, check out P.H. Woods on Allesandro Blvd, they brew their own beer. Of course any stop in California requires dropping by In-n-Out, there is one off Highway 60 at Pigeon Pass road. If interested there is a Krispy Kreme on University Ave between Chicago and Iowa. Near the Comfort Inn.in Riverside. Driving times: San Diego1+15, Six Flags Magic Mountain 2+00, Newport Beach 1+30, Las Vegas 3+30. Flying out of March can be a pain because an airport that has gliders and parachutists sits along the SID routing and the final for runway 32. If winds permit, get a rwy 14 departure since the SID is a little easier to fly. The smog can obscure the terrain so be careful. ~At March ARB, you'll get limited KC-135 support (0730-1600L). TA leaves the ramp at 1900L whether you're parked or not. Don't show up for normal AMC support on a Guard/Reserve weekend. You'll be off base. There's no transportation. TA works the crew bus, but they don't pick-up or drop-off off base. You'll need a rental car, but Enterprise (the closest agency) opens late and closes early. It's closed on Sundays. Oh, and there's no drop box--coordination is a nightmare. A cab or a UDI (they only have two) would be my recommendation if you're just there for one night during the weekend. Most likely, you will be put up at the Best Western Image Suites in Moreno Valley (less than 10 minutes from base). There's a restaurant with limited hours in the lobby, a pool and many fast food restaurants in the immediate vicinity. Try to get billeting to put you up at the Holiday Inn Select (909.784.8000) in downtown Riverside (20 minutes from base). The rooms and pool are nicer and there's a bar/restaurant. The UC-Riverside on University exit has a great coffee shop/restaurant/movie theater complex with a refreshing college atmosphere--dry campus. For eats, head to Alessandro Blvd. You'll run into many restaurants. Joe's is heavy Italian--a lot of food for the price. In and Out Burger is a California standard. The only microbrew pub/restaurant with atmosphere is P.W. Woods--worth the trip.
McClellan AFB, Sacramento, CA - Don't let them send you to the Ramada - it's a dump!
MCAS Miramar / North Island NAS, San Diego, CA - Horton Grand Hotel 1-800-542-1886 (x-585) is located near the Gaslamp District in Downtown San Diego, this older Victorian style hotel offers great access to brewpubs, restaurants and shopping. Easy access back to Coronado when working with the US Navy. POC at Hotel reservations: Julie Scheessele (shis-a-lee). They will give rooms at the existing per diem rate for the area. Harbor Lights (619 233 3300) is a great hotel and location is key! Hotel is right in the middle of the GASLAMP (party) district and is AWESOME! Huge rooms with kitchens. Crawling distance from several pubs. As with just about any Navy base, North Island was a nightmare. Prior to departure Billeting at North Island advised us that they had no rooms available. After landing 7 minutes short of a 16 hour day we jumped in the rental cars to head to our hotel. The next day we go back to Billeting to get our non-avail slips and they tell us that they have rooms and we will have to move on base. Back at the home base we are engaged in a major pissing contest because someone at NAS North Island wouldn't do the right thing and fork over the slips. Oh yeah, one other thing that needs to be mentioned. The friendly folks at North Island expect you to check into one of the numerous Billeting facilities located in the area before heading off base. Id rather not spend valuable time battling CA's traffic. The bottom line is AVOID NORTH ISLAND LIKE THE PLAGUE!!!!!! Quality Inn & Suites Harborview was an excellent hotel with great location (7th St and Ash) on the outskirts of the Gaslamp District. Hotel very helpful with free rides downtown, advice about places to go, etc. Got the same runaround from North Island NAS. ~Sheraton Four Points (619) 277-8888 was fantastic! Address: 8110 Aero Dr., San Diego. This was the best hotel as far as hospitality goes. Rooms were standard Sheraton quality (nice). Losers at MCAS Miramar base ops would only point us to a pay phone for lodging. Sheraton came out and got us a courtesy van at 1 am, opened up the bar, and comped us two cases of cold beer, munchies, and coupons for a cooked to order breakfast the next day. Courtesy van and driver were at our disposal both days. Awesome service that’ll be hard to beat anywhere on the planet. ~El Cordoba hotel was a nice resort. Actually on Coronado Island. Great place to stay when working with the SEALS. Right across the street from the beach. Most of the rooms are either a one or two bedroom apartment. That's if your lucky enough for Navy Billeting to allow you to stay off base. In the courtyard is Miguels. Great food and drinks!!! Down the street is McP's, a great Irish Pub with live music.
Moffet Field, San Jose, CA - The Residence Inn/Mt View is NICE. It is just a hair under the government rate and provides a Happy Hour and Free food for those staying there. Also, it is close to Moffet with many places in walking distance. Also, try the Brass Rail for good entertainment and really good beer.
Point Mugu NAS, CA - Country Inn & Suites (805) 986-5353 Treated us very well. Gave all crewmembers free strawberries during the festival. Stay includes 2 free drinks per night, free breakfast buffet, and good cocktail hour hours douvers. Adjusted rates to = per diem. 2 blocks from the beach. Adequate food within walking distance. Avoid the Whale Tale at the harbour. They ripped us off twice miscalculating the tab. Hollywood Guard unit bent over backwards to help us out.
Travis AFB, CA -Set up the Hoilday Inn Suites with Travis Prime Knight so ask CP to set your crew up there and get U-drives. Near the mall and right off I-80 so San Fran is a short 1 hr drive away. The Hungry Hunter is a good restaurant one exit NE on I-80 from the hotel. Fairfield Inn is decent and just north of the base on I-80. Serves a good free breakfast (make your own Belgain Waffles). Of course, while in California, you must go to any In-N-Out resturant. ~Travis billeting is screwing aircrews. They will double everyone up for $32.00/night for each aircrew member. The rooms only have one bed and a rollout bed. They are charging $64.00 for the night and you get a rollout bed without adequate crew rest. They have a new Services commander and this is his policy. [ONLY Installation Commanders, i.e. Wing CC have the waiver authority to change the billeting standards for aircrews... Read the REG.] Avoid the EZ-8 at all costs. Makes a Motel 6 look like a palace. Rooms are usually dirty and their idea of a Continental Breakfast is coffee and a box of doughnuts. So of course Travis Billeting loves it. About the Fairfield-Napa Valley Holiday Inn, also in the mall across the freeway. There is also a Marie Callenders, Chevy's(Mexican Food), Red Lobster and a Olive Garden. There is also a Denny's right next to the hotel. Good for breakfast at o-dark-thirty. The Raleys market next door has a great deli department and a excellent mix-your-own trail mix/dried fruit department. Stop here and pick something up for the next day and avoid the box nasties.
Victorville, CA - Lucky you, off to V-Ville to support the USA NTC... Victorville....aka... Southern Cal Logistics... aka... Ex-George AFB ... ain't exactly what most folks (in these days and times) would call a Garden Spot. Seems like the Ramada Inn Victorville (760-245-6565) is the primary choice, and it does suffice just fine.... A bit quirky, but OK... The free full breakfast in the morning is clutch.... Quite strong... Next redeeming factor would be the impressive and intriguing saltwater fish tank in the Del Taco fast-food Mex place just across the parking lot. Party life? Stay in the hotel... Bars and clubs here sound scary (we didn't press-to-test, on the advice of others...). There is a Mexican place across the street (in addition to Del Taco across the parking lot)... Los Domingos, I think is the name.... Highly recommended... good stuff... With all this talk of Mex food, beware well the potent incoming next-flight "Howdies".... Although it should be obvious, you've been warned.... Enjoy!
Peterson AFB, CO - Antlers Adam's Mark in downtown C-springs receives highest marks! Pool, weight room, hot tub, nice view of the mountains. Be sure and ask for a west room when you check in. They have a gov't rate -- $73 which is what you are allowed for off-base if no-avail from Peterson. Peterson billeting is nice, though if you can get it. You'll need about 20-25 minutes to get to the hotel from Pete. Nice place to stay is Radison at the Airport - # free drink coupons for each guest. Indoor pool. Modest but functional gym. 15 minutes to all the action and food. If you have a day off in C-springs, you MUST go to Garden of the Gods - great scenery and great rock climbing too! The Doubletree is the nicest hotel I've stayed in on a TDY in years. No complementary breakfast. Get cookies, however. Close to food. If you thought Ramada was cool...think again. (Ramada on Murray Blvd 719-596-7660) Tiny rooms, no bar or free stuff, and nasty continental breakfast are the best things this place has to offer. If you want a nice place, the Sheraton Downtown is great. Free Breakfast, bar on site, and American airlines crews always on location. Econo Lodge is a brand new hotel right outside the front gate. Amenities include: no bar, no free food, and a very poor continental breakfast. Rooms are okay but small and the pool is almost as big as your bathtub. Niceties nearby include an adult bookstore (XXXtreme), biker bar (Suffrin Bastard), and liquor store across the street. Management almost understands and speaks english and don't count on your wake up call in the morning or hot water in the shower. ~Hey, when you get your rental cars, definitely us Enterprise. They have an office on the base and great service. Talk to Steve. Good dude. He'll bring the cars to base ops, meet you there for all the paperwork, let you leave them there when your done, just like your own car. Except new and nice. Was just there and he hooked us up with a 2002 Suburban that only had 280 miles. Base ops has their number, you have to call them anyway. ~Although not downtown, the Radisson (corner of Fountain and Powers) by the airport is pretty nice. Crew Dogs get free drink coupons and a free buffet in the morning. There is a huge static display airplane out front that doubles as a restaurant. Our Boom went to store our COMSEC and the people at Base Ops weren't sure where to store it.
DELAWARE
Dover AFB, DE -The Comfort Inn is probably the best bet since it's next to TGI Fridays and a Outstanding BBQ place called Where Pigs Fly. Very Friendly staff and much better than most of the hotels in town that are dumps! avoid the following rat traps at all costs: Econo Lodge (rats), Holiday inn. If billiting trys to send ya out of town for rooms and it's not race weekend call the Sheraton and see if you can get them to come down to the military rate, it's on the other side of town but close to food and the mall. Stayed one night at the Howard Johnson. Scary from the moment we checked in. Elevator(very questionable). Walls are paper thin. The heater/AC unit sounded like I was on a C-5 (in the back). Had to pay extra for a safe that didn't have key. Room door's extra security feature only had 1 1/2 of four screws. The alarm clock was plugged into a switch out let - didn't work when you turned the light off to get some sleep!! Don't be looking for no sympathy from the hotel staff!!! Great place for Halloween! ~Ramada Inn is a dump!! The people working there treat you like they are on some sort of prison-work release program. The local civil alert "air-raid" siren is right next to this dive and goes off every so many hours. Really can interfere with crew rest...don't know if there is a tornado coming, an air raid or if there is a prison break in progress. ~Sheraton is a sweet hotel!! The ONE MAJOR Problem is currently they are charging the Dover Billeting contract rate of $69 which is $5 more than the USAF max billeting rate for Dover. Thus you will have to fill out additional paperwork when you get home to get the overage authorized by your Group CC. I don't know about yours but ours is a pain in the butt to get signed rapidly. Dover finance and billeting have been informed but am uncertain of corrective measures if any. DO YOU REALLY EXPECT FINANCE & BILLETING TO WORK FOR YOU? Hell, the motto of the USAF is to fly fight and to not bother finance and billeting...we are here to make their life easier. That's the real secret on how we won the cold war!
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